Traffic Collision Avoidance System alert prompted commercial aircraft evasive maneuver and go around just 24 hours and 40 minutes before the collision.
WHY THE HELL ARE THESE MILITARY CHOPPERS FLYING ALL OVER DC AIRSPACE FOR THE BENEFIT OF VIPs?!! Enough of this bullshit!! Get those things out of that airspace and let the VIPs take a damn ground service!!! THIS is insane!!
Actually all those VIP 'S should be in prison wearing orange why mess up traffic anywhere for them , WE HAVE NO LEGIT GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE only criminal cartel corporations masquerading , but are defacto government. But since the majority of people have AGREED to this so long as they get some trickle down benefits and promises of protection , they agree to be slaves to this system.
Some Congress critter or bureaucrats want to impress an important constituent or seduce a page or other mark regardless of whether they are of legal age or what sex they are. My guess is that this is just the to of the iceberg.
Is anyone here old enough to remember Wilbur Mills and Fannie Fox?
I am. And, despite the Fannie Fox (real name????) incident, I also remember that Wilbur Mills, Chair of the House Ways and Means Committee at the time, never itemized his Income Tax expenses, but used only the pre-calculated deductions because he didn't want to give even the appearance of a conflict of interest with his duties on the committee. Sadly, those days when someone would think to preserve the integrity of his/her position appear to be long gone.
It just might be the worst noisiest ride of a lifetime in a black hawk chopper with all that moving metal screaming several feet from occupants and pilots. Headset is on!
Limo is usually stuck in traffic in all beltway road surfaces. DC/I395 is a parking lot
I am not convinced that what I suggest is true in this case, but I am sure that stuff goes on.
However, I saw a clip of video of the moments leading up to and including the crash and, though it may be an artifact of the angle of the video, it looks like the copter was coming into the point of impact from slightly above the jet almost as if it were deliberate, but certainly indicating that it was well above the ceiling regulation.(To be clear, I am not saying that it was deliberate.
What I’ve been wondering is whether the army helo flights have been routinely exceeding the 200 ft. limit, and it just finally caught up with them. This suggests that might be the case.
Yep, when they bust altitude, they need to be violated, not just told to not do it again. It's extremely easy to let altitude slip and night, and it's almost always up. Natural tendency... But that's also one benefit of having two pilots in the cockpit. They cross monitor and divide the workload. NOTHING else should be happening on these routes other than navigating, and talking to ATC. They say they have the voice/data recorder from the Hawk, so that should be illuminating.
As someone who spent time in an industry where safety is a priority due to the high risks involved, there was a policy that “near misses” had to be recorded, reviewed, and mitigated to prevent future accidents. A detailed review of what happened and how the accident was avoided was written up and shared at every location as part of the regular safety meetings. I don’t understand how our top tier military pilots were operating in that type of environment, where this could happen repeatedly. There are a lot of questions! I hope there are major changes here.
If its REPEATEDLY, then its on purpose, or intentional systemic incompetence has become the norm as part of infiltration, corruption and degradation of performance and readiness .
I read the best article this morning in Gateway Pundit on this accident.
"*The single-greatest error in this accident was the decision to fly without a second Crew Chief on the left-hand side of the Blackhawk, who could have provided an extra set of eyes to “look out-and-up” to see the approaching American Airlines Passenger plane.
*Night Vision Goggle (NVG) flights result in a sort-of “tunnel vision” for all who wear the NVGs and normal policy in many Army flight units is to force a full crew of 2 pilots and 2 crew chiefs for all NVG flights, so that you always have “eyes out” to both sides of the aircraft, when flying in those conditions. While not mandatory, it is the proper safety call, especially when flying in the vicinity of a busy, major airport such as Reagan Airport (DCA). No matter how competent the pilots and Crew Chiefs may be, this flight needed a second Crew Chief on the left side of the chopper.
*The front-left pilot, even if not wearing Night Vision Goggles, would still have limited visibility out the left door, and if that pilot is busy with radio calls, or referencing the map/GPS, that pilot could get consumed by work inside the cockpit, instead of looking out and around.
*Flight Unit Leadership failed to recognize the need for a second Crew Chief in the Mission Planning and Risk Assessment Process. This is where either incompetence, or DEI (or both), may have come into play. This was certainly poor leadership.
*Known mistakes by the Blackhawk Flight Crew point to a lack of experience and/or competence. We’ve heard in the media that both pilots were “experienced.” This is just not true. Someone is “blowing smoke” to the media, to President Trump, and to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, to “cover their ass.” The collective level of experience of the pilots was not impressive. Their level of experience is like comparing a rookie in the NFL to a second-year player. The pilot had the experience of a second-year player, while the co-pilot was a rookie. This was NOT an experienced crew to be flying at night, near a major airport, without a second crew chief.
*Radio calls were not responded to by the Blackhawk crew, and they flew at 350 Feet above ground level (AGL), whereas reports say they were supposed to fly at 200 Feet AGL. These two mistakes alone show that the crew were not as experienced or professional as reported to President Trump, Defense Secretary Hegseth, or the media.
*The Instructor Pilot may have been too inexperienced for this “Annual Evaluation” flight, as mistakes were clearly made during the course of the flight (that are assumed to have been made by the junior pilot being evaluated). Why didn’t the Instructor Pilot notice they were flying too high and off course? That points to his lack of experience. If there had been a second Crew Chief, he could have noticed these mistakes and warned the pilots.
*The Flight Unit Commanders must share the blame, and they’re still alive! There is a 12th Aviation Battalion commander of that B Company, and I don’t know who that is, but this individual was the first leader in the chain of events for the Mission Plan and Risk Assessment to get signed off and approved. This B Company commander should be asked why they did not enforce a second Crew Chief to be on that flight.
*Accident sequences for these types of accidents begin in “Mission Planning,” when first selecting the time you will fly, where you will fly for the Annual Evaluation, and what crew members will be on the flight. Any of the Leaders in that unit’s Chain of Command could have demanded that this flight have two Crew Chiefs aboard the aircraft, due to NVG flying conditions, plus the busy airspace of Reagan airport.
*An experienced, thoughtful leader knows when to “raise the standard” and force the mission to have that second Crew Chief aboard the aircraft. This was clearly one of those moments, and both the B Company Commander and the 12th Aviation Battalion Commander failed to see through this risk problem and impose their own “Risk Reduction” to include a second Crew Chief to manage the left-hand side of the Blackhawk.
*In my opinion, even with all these mistakes that were made, a Crew Chief on the left side of the Blackhawk would still have saved them in that last 20 seconds when that American Airlines flight was approaching on the left-hand side. A Crew Chief in that seat would have warned the pilots to turn and descend immediately.
This accident was completely avoidable. Thank you to my friend Colonel Joe for this thoughtful analysis."
There's no guarantee that another crew chief would have mattered, in fact I'd guess that would have a 20% chance of mattering. It's risky anyway you look at it. No helicopter should be in the airspace above the Potomac leading to the approach to Reagan, especially at night.
The error was being 150 feet higher than the max altitude for that route. There's no problem with these routes through that airspace when people abide by the rules. Both of these incidents should have resulted in altitude deviation violations for the pilots. If the controller doesn't correct the pilot that's busting his altitude, then the controller needs to be disciplined, also. The routing is fine. Pilots on the VFR routed need to play by the rules, ATC needs to verify that they're in the standard, and if someone doesn't uphold the standards, they get violated/disciplined. We shouldn't wait for the deviations to get to the point of a crash, then take action. Sounds like they've been busting regulations for quite a while with no ramifications, until now. Now, everybody wants to end the system that actually works.
No, the single greatest error was the helicopter flying 150 feet above their MAX altitude for the route they were flying. At 200 and below, as required, there was nothing to collide with. At 350, obviously, there's air traffic.
They could have had ten people looking for an airplane at the same altitude with a background of DC lights at night, and they might have never seen that airplane. But if they were at the proper altitude, it would have been easier to see, because they'd be looking up into the night sky, but at the same time, they're separated by altitude, so even if they didn't see it, there'd be no collision.
The single greatest error was not being at the REQUIRED altitude.
Who would have thought; helicopters shouldnt be in the way of commercial airliners on final approach to land. That airspace should belong to airliners and planes. The air traffic controller had a lot more to say to the aircraft 24 hours earlier; what changed ?
Commercial airliners aren't using the bottom 200 feet around the outside of the control zone. If helicopters fly through those areas below 200 feet, they're not hurting anything. Seems they don't stay below 200, though, so THOSE pilots need to be violated for altitude deviations. The altitudes and routes are published, and they're bound by regulations to follow them. Deviate, and they should be violated. If the controller allows the deviation, they need to be disciplined, also. It's not a problem with where the routes are. It's a problem with not holding the pilots/controllers to the standards.
Here's some government clarity (reminiscent of withholding Michael Bird's name after the murder of Ashley Babbitt):
"A U.S. military official told NPR on Friday that at the request of the family the Army is not going to release the name of the female member of the three-person helicopter crew."
"A U.S. military official told NPR on Friday that at the request of the family the Army is not going to release the name of the female member of the three-person helicopter crew."
If true, that is a red flag. And there is the problem.
"Defense officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly, told NPR that the instructor pilot, now believed to be Chief Warrant Officer Eaves, had 1,000 hours of flight time, which is considered experienced. The co-pilot, whose name is being withheld, had 500 hours, which is considered normal.
Officials also tell NPR that the Black Hawk was supposed to be flying at a maximum of 200 feet, though sources say it was flying at least 100 feet higher. All requested anonymity given the sensitivity of the investigation."
They are in communication with/directed by the Control Tower, just as are all other planes. Pilot error is always possible. But now we have just learned that the military helicopters can be remote controlled.
This event so closely mirroring the tragic crash, and the fact that the helicopter climbed to 300' AFTER the warning, gives me the impression that these choppers were sent out with intent to collide. The first one missed, the second one hit the target. I just don't know how you'd get 3 American soldiers to sign up for a suicide mission.
Our Military Crews are LIED too just like everyone else is. Our Government Entities are a Cesspool of Dispicable Humans everyone is expendable to the Evilness. So sad!.. Prayers for this swamp to be drained at a warp speed.
It’s impossible to deny the simple fact: The black hawk deliberately slammed itself to the AA passenger jet. If it’s an accident, then it’s no way that an agile military helicopter didn’t attempt to make an abrupt maneuver right before the collision, even if the abrupt move was too late.
We are NOT told the true facts about the horrific incident. It’s NOT an accident unless the authorities can prove it to us.
It's impossible to call that a fact of any sort. You don't know it was deliberate. They likely never even saw that airplane. Stop trying to spread lies. You don't know anything about that helicopter crew. And I'm pretty sure nobody has to prove anything to you, nor could they. You already have your mind made up. You can keep that to yourself.
The black hawk is a highly maneuverable military helicopter with advanced instrumentation onboard. In addition, the crew knew full well that air space was full of other airplanes in all directions. It’s simply not possible to slam itself into a big jetliner (relative to the size of the black hawk) without making abrupt moves before the collision. It’s just common sense.
"Not possible"... mmmkay. Obviously, you should be on the investigation team, since you know what's "not possible".
Hint: It's very possible for a Blackhawk to be at the wrong altitude and not see an airplane on a converging course in a sea of dense city lights like DC. Very possible.
It would be interesting to know whether these helicopters were on their way to pick someone up or had just dropped someone off and, if so, who those someones were.
John, given that you've likely only looked into this for 24 hours imagine how many of these incidents you will find if you look for a week. As I've been saying in your comments, this is 100% a protocol issue and likely the only reason there's been no collision so far is a mixture of luck and no DEI in the military. I think it was you who reported on the number of women who would have washed out of jet fighter training the first week or two if they weren't...women. Or do I have you confused with another Substacker?
100% a problem with not violating helicopter pilots for deviating above their maximum altitudes. When they go above the 200 foot ceiling, they need to be told to descend and violated. This will send a definite message that ATC will not tolerate busting those maximum altitudes. Violate a few, and the rest will get the message, because the commander of the unit will get really tired of dealing with the unnecessary violations cause by his pilots. Problem solved. If ATC won't correct and report them, then he gets disciplined, also. It comes down to standards and maintaining them. The standards are there. They don't seem to have been enforced, so pilots don't seem to be very hesitant to bust them. Do the right thing, and things work great. Violate the standards, and life should be tough. Keep violating them, and eventually really bad things happen.
They'd actually violate the Army, not the pilot. It's the Army flying the helicopter, so the Army gets to answer for any violations. Discipline is done by the commander of the unit responsible. ATC shouldn't even know who the pilot is, so it makes it even more fair. But in this case, as I understand it, she wasn't the pilot in command. That was the male warrant officer.
Very interesting. And now we see that she was doing social somethinganother work directly for the Bidens. I reckon they were probably trying to groom her into being the ultimate virtue signal, their own personal, sniffable, female Blackhawk pilot. I dunno. Such a shame that capable, engaged young people get caught up in this neo-communism and have their lives ruined...or worse, in this case.
Once again, I ask....
WHY THE HELL ARE THESE MILITARY CHOPPERS FLYING ALL OVER DC AIRSPACE FOR THE BENEFIT OF VIPs?!! Enough of this bullshit!! Get those things out of that airspace and let the VIPs take a damn ground service!!! THIS is insane!!
"Get those things out of that airspace and let the VIPs take a damn ground service!!! THIS is insane!!"
Exactly correct. Let them take an Uber.
Actually all those VIP 'S should be in prison wearing orange why mess up traffic anywhere for them , WE HAVE NO LEGIT GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE only criminal cartel corporations masquerading , but are defacto government. But since the majority of people have AGREED to this so long as they get some trickle down benefits and promises of protection , they agree to be slaves to this system.
check this out those choppers can be remote controlled
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/lockheed-told-us-3-months-ago-you
whether that happened or not is still not known SK
Or, here’s a crazy idea - let them buy their own car, gas, and drive themselves. Like we all have to do.
Some Congress critter or bureaucrats want to impress an important constituent or seduce a page or other mark regardless of whether they are of legal age or what sex they are. My guess is that this is just the to of the iceberg.
Is anyone here old enough to remember Wilbur Mills and Fannie Fox?
I am. And, despite the Fannie Fox (real name????) incident, I also remember that Wilbur Mills, Chair of the House Ways and Means Committee at the time, never itemized his Income Tax expenses, but used only the pre-calculated deductions because he didn't want to give even the appearance of a conflict of interest with his duties on the committee. Sadly, those days when someone would think to preserve the integrity of his/her position appear to be long gone.
And yes, those days are long gone.
Real names born: Annabel Edith Villagra, m: Battistella; m2: Montgomery
It just might be the worst noisiest ride of a lifetime in a black hawk chopper with all that moving metal screaming several feet from occupants and pilots. Headset is on!
Limo is usually stuck in traffic in all beltway road surfaces. DC/I395 is a parking lot
A fast motorcycle fixes all that on a nice day
Your explanation makes a lot of sense. D.C. swamp creatures have egos so big, they should have zip codes.
I am not convinced that what I suggest is true in this case, but I am sure that stuff goes on.
However, I saw a clip of video of the moments leading up to and including the crash and, though it may be an artifact of the angle of the video, it looks like the copter was coming into the point of impact from slightly above the jet almost as if it were deliberate, but certainly indicating that it was well above the ceiling regulation.(To be clear, I am not saying that it was deliberate.
It certainly appears deliberate!
Your so correct this is ridiculous what were they doing the day before practicing to crash this whole thing stinks
What I’ve been wondering is whether the army helo flights have been routinely exceeding the 200 ft. limit, and it just finally caught up with them. This suggests that might be the case.
Yep, when they bust altitude, they need to be violated, not just told to not do it again. It's extremely easy to let altitude slip and night, and it's almost always up. Natural tendency... But that's also one benefit of having two pilots in the cockpit. They cross monitor and divide the workload. NOTHING else should be happening on these routes other than navigating, and talking to ATC. They say they have the voice/data recorder from the Hawk, so that should be illuminating.
As someone who spent time in an industry where safety is a priority due to the high risks involved, there was a policy that “near misses” had to be recorded, reviewed, and mitigated to prevent future accidents. A detailed review of what happened and how the accident was avoided was written up and shared at every location as part of the regular safety meetings. I don’t understand how our top tier military pilots were operating in that type of environment, where this could happen repeatedly. There are a lot of questions! I hope there are major changes here.
DEI & Congress Critters showing off to/for their underage trafficked playthings.
Maybe not all of them, but I am going to bet that it’s not unheard of.
If its REPEATEDLY, then its on purpose, or intentional systemic incompetence has become the norm as part of infiltration, corruption and degradation of performance and readiness .
Bring Back Common Sense Again! Thank you for your great work, John Leake.
I read the best article this morning in Gateway Pundit on this accident.
"*The single-greatest error in this accident was the decision to fly without a second Crew Chief on the left-hand side of the Blackhawk, who could have provided an extra set of eyes to “look out-and-up” to see the approaching American Airlines Passenger plane.
*Night Vision Goggle (NVG) flights result in a sort-of “tunnel vision” for all who wear the NVGs and normal policy in many Army flight units is to force a full crew of 2 pilots and 2 crew chiefs for all NVG flights, so that you always have “eyes out” to both sides of the aircraft, when flying in those conditions. While not mandatory, it is the proper safety call, especially when flying in the vicinity of a busy, major airport such as Reagan Airport (DCA). No matter how competent the pilots and Crew Chiefs may be, this flight needed a second Crew Chief on the left side of the chopper.
*The front-left pilot, even if not wearing Night Vision Goggles, would still have limited visibility out the left door, and if that pilot is busy with radio calls, or referencing the map/GPS, that pilot could get consumed by work inside the cockpit, instead of looking out and around.
*Flight Unit Leadership failed to recognize the need for a second Crew Chief in the Mission Planning and Risk Assessment Process. This is where either incompetence, or DEI (or both), may have come into play. This was certainly poor leadership.
*Known mistakes by the Blackhawk Flight Crew point to a lack of experience and/or competence. We’ve heard in the media that both pilots were “experienced.” This is just not true. Someone is “blowing smoke” to the media, to President Trump, and to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, to “cover their ass.” The collective level of experience of the pilots was not impressive. Their level of experience is like comparing a rookie in the NFL to a second-year player. The pilot had the experience of a second-year player, while the co-pilot was a rookie. This was NOT an experienced crew to be flying at night, near a major airport, without a second crew chief.
*Radio calls were not responded to by the Blackhawk crew, and they flew at 350 Feet above ground level (AGL), whereas reports say they were supposed to fly at 200 Feet AGL. These two mistakes alone show that the crew were not as experienced or professional as reported to President Trump, Defense Secretary Hegseth, or the media.
*The Instructor Pilot may have been too inexperienced for this “Annual Evaluation” flight, as mistakes were clearly made during the course of the flight (that are assumed to have been made by the junior pilot being evaluated). Why didn’t the Instructor Pilot notice they were flying too high and off course? That points to his lack of experience. If there had been a second Crew Chief, he could have noticed these mistakes and warned the pilots.
*The Flight Unit Commanders must share the blame, and they’re still alive! There is a 12th Aviation Battalion commander of that B Company, and I don’t know who that is, but this individual was the first leader in the chain of events for the Mission Plan and Risk Assessment to get signed off and approved. This B Company commander should be asked why they did not enforce a second Crew Chief to be on that flight.
*Accident sequences for these types of accidents begin in “Mission Planning,” when first selecting the time you will fly, where you will fly for the Annual Evaluation, and what crew members will be on the flight. Any of the Leaders in that unit’s Chain of Command could have demanded that this flight have two Crew Chiefs aboard the aircraft, due to NVG flying conditions, plus the busy airspace of Reagan airport.
*An experienced, thoughtful leader knows when to “raise the standard” and force the mission to have that second Crew Chief aboard the aircraft. This was clearly one of those moments, and both the B Company Commander and the 12th Aviation Battalion Commander failed to see through this risk problem and impose their own “Risk Reduction” to include a second Crew Chief to manage the left-hand side of the Blackhawk.
*In my opinion, even with all these mistakes that were made, a Crew Chief on the left side of the Blackhawk would still have saved them in that last 20 seconds when that American Airlines flight was approaching on the left-hand side. A Crew Chief in that seat would have warned the pilots to turn and descend immediately.
This accident was completely avoidable. Thank you to my friend Colonel Joe for this thoughtful analysis."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/wayne-root-here-is-best-explanation-ive-heard/
There's no guarantee that another crew chief would have mattered, in fact I'd guess that would have a 20% chance of mattering. It's risky anyway you look at it. No helicopter should be in the airspace above the Potomac leading to the approach to Reagan, especially at night.
I totally agree with you.
The error was being 150 feet higher than the max altitude for that route. There's no problem with these routes through that airspace when people abide by the rules. Both of these incidents should have resulted in altitude deviation violations for the pilots. If the controller doesn't correct the pilot that's busting his altitude, then the controller needs to be disciplined, also. The routing is fine. Pilots on the VFR routed need to play by the rules, ATC needs to verify that they're in the standard, and if someone doesn't uphold the standards, they get violated/disciplined. We shouldn't wait for the deviations to get to the point of a crash, then take action. Sounds like they've been busting regulations for quite a while with no ramifications, until now. Now, everybody wants to end the system that actually works.
No, the single greatest error was the helicopter flying 150 feet above their MAX altitude for the route they were flying. At 200 and below, as required, there was nothing to collide with. At 350, obviously, there's air traffic.
They could have had ten people looking for an airplane at the same altitude with a background of DC lights at night, and they might have never seen that airplane. But if they were at the proper altitude, it would have been easier to see, because they'd be looking up into the night sky, but at the same time, they're separated by altitude, so even if they didn't see it, there'd be no collision.
The single greatest error was not being at the REQUIRED altitude.
Who would have thought; helicopters shouldnt be in the way of commercial airliners on final approach to land. That airspace should belong to airliners and planes. The air traffic controller had a lot more to say to the aircraft 24 hours earlier; what changed ?
Commercial airliners aren't using the bottom 200 feet around the outside of the control zone. If helicopters fly through those areas below 200 feet, they're not hurting anything. Seems they don't stay below 200, though, so THOSE pilots need to be violated for altitude deviations. The altitudes and routes are published, and they're bound by regulations to follow them. Deviate, and they should be violated. If the controller allows the deviation, they need to be disciplined, also. It's not a problem with where the routes are. It's a problem with not holding the pilots/controllers to the standards.
No brainer, John.
F the VIP privilege. Put them on a military 🚌 bus.
A flight over the Potomac would ensure any evidence of foul play would be irretrievable.
Also a night flight.
🎯
Yup, I was reading about it. No one saw any bodies fall from that one, per chance?
But it doesn't...
Here's some government clarity (reminiscent of withholding Michael Bird's name after the murder of Ashley Babbitt):
"A U.S. military official told NPR on Friday that at the request of the family the Army is not going to release the name of the female member of the three-person helicopter crew."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5281246/pentagon-jet-military-helicopter-collision
"A U.S. military official told NPR on Friday that at the request of the family the Army is not going to release the name of the female member of the three-person helicopter crew."
If true, that is a red flag. And there is the problem.
Then don't pay them any death benefits!
Interesting "rumours".
https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/01/31/1020213.html
Just Ducky!
A very informative link. Thanks, CB.
A quote:
"Defense officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly, told NPR that the instructor pilot, now believed to be Chief Warrant Officer Eaves, had 1,000 hours of flight time, which is considered experienced. The co-pilot, whose name is being withheld, had 500 hours, which is considered normal.
Officials also tell NPR that the Black Hawk was supposed to be flying at a maximum of 200 feet, though sources say it was flying at least 100 feet higher. All requested anonymity given the sensitivity of the investigation."
What the hell were they doing there? Why were they allowed to be there? Do they actually obey any rules? Unbelievable.
They are in communication with/directed by the Control Tower, just as are all other planes. Pilot error is always possible. But now we have just learned that the military helicopters can be remote controlled.
This event so closely mirroring the tragic crash, and the fact that the helicopter climbed to 300' AFTER the warning, gives me the impression that these choppers were sent out with intent to collide. The first one missed, the second one hit the target. I just don't know how you'd get 3 American soldiers to sign up for a suicide mission.
MK-ULTRA?
Our Military Crews are LIED too just like everyone else is. Our Government Entities are a Cesspool of Dispicable Humans everyone is expendable to the Evilness. So sad!.. Prayers for this swamp to be drained at a warp speed.
Maybe they didn't. Just like the oil tanker in Baltimore... Was it digital highjacking?
Really reaching, huh?
Why are helicopters allowed there is the first place? Don’t understand. Isn’t this a very busy airport? Seems very dangerous. Well now we know it is.
Time for big heads to roll!
It’s impossible to deny the simple fact: The black hawk deliberately slammed itself to the AA passenger jet. If it’s an accident, then it’s no way that an agile military helicopter didn’t attempt to make an abrupt maneuver right before the collision, even if the abrupt move was too late.
We are NOT told the true facts about the horrific incident. It’s NOT an accident unless the authorities can prove it to us.
It's impossible to call that a fact of any sort. You don't know it was deliberate. They likely never even saw that airplane. Stop trying to spread lies. You don't know anything about that helicopter crew. And I'm pretty sure nobody has to prove anything to you, nor could they. You already have your mind made up. You can keep that to yourself.
The black hawk is a highly maneuverable military helicopter with advanced instrumentation onboard. In addition, the crew knew full well that air space was full of other airplanes in all directions. It’s simply not possible to slam itself into a big jetliner (relative to the size of the black hawk) without making abrupt moves before the collision. It’s just common sense.
"Not possible"... mmmkay. Obviously, you should be on the investigation team, since you know what's "not possible".
Hint: It's very possible for a Blackhawk to be at the wrong altitude and not see an airplane on a converging course in a sea of dense city lights like DC. Very possible.
Yep.
It would be interesting to know whether these helicopters were on their way to pick someone up or had just dropped someone off and, if so, who those someones were.
John, given that you've likely only looked into this for 24 hours imagine how many of these incidents you will find if you look for a week. As I've been saying in your comments, this is 100% a protocol issue and likely the only reason there's been no collision so far is a mixture of luck and no DEI in the military. I think it was you who reported on the number of women who would have washed out of jet fighter training the first week or two if they weren't...women. Or do I have you confused with another Substacker?
100% a problem with not violating helicopter pilots for deviating above their maximum altitudes. When they go above the 200 foot ceiling, they need to be told to descend and violated. This will send a definite message that ATC will not tolerate busting those maximum altitudes. Violate a few, and the rest will get the message, because the commander of the unit will get really tired of dealing with the unnecessary violations cause by his pilots. Problem solved. If ATC won't correct and report them, then he gets disciplined, also. It comes down to standards and maintaining them. The standards are there. They don't seem to have been enforced, so pilots don't seem to be very hesitant to bust them. Do the right thing, and things work great. Violate the standards, and life should be tough. Keep violating them, and eventually really bad things happen.
Violate a female Blackhawk pilot? Heresy!
They'd actually violate the Army, not the pilot. It's the Army flying the helicopter, so the Army gets to answer for any violations. Discipline is done by the commander of the unit responsible. ATC shouldn't even know who the pilot is, so it makes it even more fair. But in this case, as I understand it, she wasn't the pilot in command. That was the male warrant officer.
Very interesting. And now we see that she was doing social somethinganother work directly for the Bidens. I reckon they were probably trying to groom her into being the ultimate virtue signal, their own personal, sniffable, female Blackhawk pilot. I dunno. Such a shame that capable, engaged young people get caught up in this neo-communism and have their lives ruined...or worse, in this case.