To be the devils advocate, I am sure big pharma would counter that "see how many measles deaths we saved". So to prove the MMR vaccine is worse than the disease it is necessary to estimate how many measles deaths there would have been if MMR was discontinued.
Personally I have only had one flu vaccine and 3 shots of something when I travelled to the south pacific in the last 20 years. I don't plan to get any more shots. I had the measles as a child and survived just fine.
Deaths from measles was rare in the US by the time the vaccine became available, due to better nutrition (vitamin A), better antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial pneumonia, and better ICU care. We also have certain populations, like the Amish and Mennonites who tend not to get vaccinated, to which we can compare the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated. There’s no need to wait years for yet another study to be done; the data is already available.
Fred, it seems Allie's easy suggestion to simply compare Amish to a vaccinated county is pretty simple to do; perhaps even simpler is to just track longitudinal health of kids whose Mom's refuse MMR jabs for them vs the huge number who do not bother in a retrospective study. Heck a local pediatrician could do the study himself at almost zero cost.
I have to believe that this has been done somewhere by some doc and the data is just buried for "money" reasons.
I thought I had replied to Allie but I must not have pressed the send key.
My response to Allie was the cases of measles deaths and MMR deaths the US is so rare that there are typically less than 10 jab deaths for a population of 340 million or 0.03 per million people
The number of Amish and Mennonites is less than total of 1,000,000 in the US so even one measles death amoungst the A & M would exceed MMR jab rate of death.
Thus some kind of a rudimentary study of a larger population is needed if one wants to prove the jabs produce more deaths than the disease.
Yes, that does make sense. Regardless, they MUST remove the confounding variables before any further "experimentation" is done. NO more MMR, M and M and R-- singular jabs; and, and!, determine side effects(ie correlation to autism, allergies, gut dysbiosis) too.
The FDA has mucked up the works with decades of poor experiments(no real controls), unjustifiably proclaiming no connections to autism, and no demand to use VAERS(voluntary), while using tri-valent jabs. It is a real mess they have created!
Zooming out even further, this is a curation of harms by pharmaceuticals as a whole, organized by type (antibiotics, statins, SSRIs, weight loss drugs, vaccines, etc)
There's more, but just wanted to make y'all aware of this virtual "hall of records" so we can make it easier for those seeking knowledge to have straight-forward access to your work and the plethora of vital information and sources available.
They do not train pediatricians well these days. Even 20 years ago I had a problem with two pediatricians who were not aware of secondary bacterial infections with chickenpox. On a Friday my daughter developed a high temperature of 104 after having chickenpox a few days. I called the pediatrician who was on call and asked what to do. I was instructed not to go to the ER or to commit to the clinic because she was infectious. it appeared as though she did not have any concern that my daughter‘s temperature was so high. I called my mother who was a pediatrician, old school from Europe, and she told me exactly what to do. She said it was simple! Everybody knows this. It’s pediatrics 101. she explained that these open sores in the mouth can give a secondary infection of strep and all she needs is an anabiotic. I called back the doctor on call who refused to see my daughter refused to have her go to the emergency room and refused to give her an anabiotic without seeing her! As a nurse, I was concerned now about getting septic and having a more serious problem from a possible strep infection, such as damaging your heart valves. Fortunately, my husband is a physician and was able to order her anabiotic’s. She was much better the next day. When I informed her normal pediatrician of what had occurred, he too saud heard of this before. It is inconceivable to me that trained doctors could be so ignorant of basic common sense wisdom. Sadly, It appears to have been lost. This is what I appreciate so very much about Dr. McCullough! Common sense, and good training
To be the devils advocate, I am sure big pharma would counter that "see how many measles deaths we saved". So to prove the MMR vaccine is worse than the disease it is necessary to estimate how many measles deaths there would have been if MMR was discontinued.
Personally I have only had one flu vaccine and 3 shots of something when I travelled to the south pacific in the last 20 years. I don't plan to get any more shots. I had the measles as a child and survived just fine.
Deaths from measles was rare in the US by the time the vaccine became available, due to better nutrition (vitamin A), better antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial pneumonia, and better ICU care. We also have certain populations, like the Amish and Mennonites who tend not to get vaccinated, to which we can compare the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated. There’s no need to wait years for yet another study to be done; the data is already available.
Fred, it seems Allie's easy suggestion to simply compare Amish to a vaccinated county is pretty simple to do; perhaps even simpler is to just track longitudinal health of kids whose Mom's refuse MMR jabs for them vs the huge number who do not bother in a retrospective study. Heck a local pediatrician could do the study himself at almost zero cost.
I have to believe that this has been done somewhere by some doc and the data is just buried for "money" reasons.
I thought I had replied to Allie but I must not have pressed the send key.
My response to Allie was the cases of measles deaths and MMR deaths the US is so rare that there are typically less than 10 jab deaths for a population of 340 million or 0.03 per million people
The number of Amish and Mennonites is less than total of 1,000,000 in the US so even one measles death amoungst the A & M would exceed MMR jab rate of death.
Thus some kind of a rudimentary study of a larger population is needed if one wants to prove the jabs produce more deaths than the disease.
Yes, that does make sense. Regardless, they MUST remove the confounding variables before any further "experimentation" is done. NO more MMR, M and M and R-- singular jabs; and, and!, determine side effects(ie correlation to autism, allergies, gut dysbiosis) too.
The FDA has mucked up the works with decades of poor experiments(no real controls), unjustifiably proclaiming no connections to autism, and no demand to use VAERS(voluntary), while using tri-valent jabs. It is a real mess they have created!
I would like to see each vaccine approved come with testing to screen out those who might be injured or killed by the applicant's vaccine.
yes, sounds nothing but reasonable to reasonable people.
Follow the money!
Wow! Graph says it all!! 15 deaths from vaccine for every 1 death from measles in the last 25 years!!
We have new leadership who will be objective in their findings!!
This is such vital reporting. Your work is so valuable, and so appreciated.
I've added this post and others of yours to a curation of essential facts about MMR and measles (with quick links for easy verification):
https://birdseyeviewperspective.substack.com/p/fact-each-year-there-are-more-deaths
For even greater context, here is a curation of almost 200 references on MMR and measles, in date, order back to 1962:
https://birdseyeviewperspective.substack.com/p/mmr-vaccines-provoked-seizures-in
For yet an even greater context, here is a curation of of harms by all vaccines, organized by vaccine type:
https://birdseyeviewperspective.substack.com/p/vaccines-part-4-reports-by-vaccine
Zooming out even further, this is a curation of harms by pharmaceuticals as a whole, organized by type (antibiotics, statins, SSRIs, weight loss drugs, vaccines, etc)
https://birdseyeviewperspective.substack.com/p/establishment-medicine-part-4-the
There's more, but just wanted to make y'all aware of this virtual "hall of records" so we can make it easier for those seeking knowledge to have straight-forward access to your work and the plethora of vital information and sources available.
They do not train pediatricians well these days. Even 20 years ago I had a problem with two pediatricians who were not aware of secondary bacterial infections with chickenpox. On a Friday my daughter developed a high temperature of 104 after having chickenpox a few days. I called the pediatrician who was on call and asked what to do. I was instructed not to go to the ER or to commit to the clinic because she was infectious. it appeared as though she did not have any concern that my daughter‘s temperature was so high. I called my mother who was a pediatrician, old school from Europe, and she told me exactly what to do. She said it was simple! Everybody knows this. It’s pediatrics 101. she explained that these open sores in the mouth can give a secondary infection of strep and all she needs is an anabiotic. I called back the doctor on call who refused to see my daughter refused to have her go to the emergency room and refused to give her an anabiotic without seeing her! As a nurse, I was concerned now about getting septic and having a more serious problem from a possible strep infection, such as damaging your heart valves. Fortunately, my husband is a physician and was able to order her anabiotic’s. She was much better the next day. When I informed her normal pediatrician of what had occurred, he too saud heard of this before. It is inconceivable to me that trained doctors could be so ignorant of basic common sense wisdom. Sadly, It appears to have been lost. This is what I appreciate so very much about Dr. McCullough! Common sense, and good training
Sorry about the typos I was dictating. I think you get the general idea.
Geert Vanden Bossche wants mRNA jabbed to get MMR vaccine to retrain immune system to fight future SC2 virus. Roll the dice. 🎲
Why are MMR vaccines mandatory in Day Care and schools??
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