Sounds like you believe in beatings, too. No one learns from harshness. I worked with drug addicts there in Dallas. A thankless job but I would never change the time I gave to that endeavor. They were young. Abused. Lost. And once hooked, next to impossible to rescue. None of the fool drugs we use to “help” them work. The ones who climb …
Sounds like you believe in beatings, too. No one learns from harshness. I worked with drug addicts there in Dallas. A thankless job but I would never change the time I gave to that endeavor. They were young. Abused. Lost. And once hooked, next to impossible to rescue. None of the fool drugs we use to “help” them work. The ones who climb out are rare and give some hope.....maybe to others. Mostly it’s false hope. Once hooked, you will struggle for life to get unhooked and stay that way. We need to go back to better, more engaged parenting without abuse. We need to get the programming out of our schools that leave kids lost and vulnerable to the predators that suck them in. We need honest leaders at all levels of government as well as in the churches, media, schools and corporations. Those places where kids are getting programmed. It’s not a simplistic “it’s not cool to do this” sort of thing. It’s adults and programed youth by adults who know how to manipulate vulnerable young people. The drug lords and our sick, corrupted government - including the medical community - who deserve our contempt. Not the kids - including the rock stars who are also kids - who just don’t know who to believe in anymore. Go into downtown Dallas or south Dallas for a few nights and sit with those street kids. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Just be quiet and sit and listen and watch. You’ll need to carry for protection and don’t look too affluent and don’t sound like you “want to help” since that will make you a target and they can see through that last bit and know how to manipulate your emotions to get a few bucks off of you. But you need to know the people you are babbling about before deciding “what needs to be done.” You need to KNOW.
You nailed it!!! Hopefully God will speak to his heart and he'll listen. I'm not an a user and have been friends with some who're recovered 20+ years and married to a 17 yr survivor of drugs . It IS possible. Thank you and God bless you for the work you have done to help.
Bless you and your friends and spouse yes it can be done but it’s damned hard work and more lost than saved. My heart is still scarred from that time. ❤️
You know what sir, that's a fat load of bushwah! The problem is not that addictions are that hard to break, it's that they do NOT WANT to quit and get clean. When, if they choose to do so, because they truly want to quit, whether it's alcohol, drugs, tobacco/ nicotine, gambling, sex,or whatever the addiction is, they can and will do so. But folks like you and sou mentally deranged "leaders" coddle them, so the payoff to staying addicts is greater than that of getting sober! I know because I have quit addictions to (prescribed) narcotics and tobacco both, without drugs or any of the other "helps" you're providing. No patches or gum, etc. The really hard 1 is food, and I am working on that 1 too. It's the only 1 you can't reach a stop point. But it is still a free will choice to reduce intake and break its control.
Go carnivore and then regular keto and your food addiction will take care of itself.
You are correct, they must want to quit. But the only way to get them to want to quit is to offer the only kind of love they understand: uncompromising tough love. Every single recovering addict I interviewed in researching my books admitted--eventually, sometimes a year after I asked--they were inspired to "try sobriety" because of a credible or actual loss of something they truly cared about (family, children, job, freedom). And they stayed sober not just because they worked the program, but because others warned them that if they drank or used again the same fate would befall them.
You are partly correct in naming all the "addictions." Half of compulsive gambler, sexually compulsive, compulsive spenders are psychoactive drug addicts; most of the other half are children of addicts, coping in their own particular way. For the addicts, stop the active addiction and, while some flip over into the other compulsions, most after a period will stop the compulsions. For the non-addicts, they need to understand their parent(s) did what they did because of their addiction. Their emotional or intellectual abandonment was a result of the addiction, not the real parent, who almost assuredly would have loved their child if they did not have a greater love of the substance.
I can't do that; I live in a semi assisted living place where meals are provided, and there aren't real cooking facilities in our apartments. Even If I had the appliances I can't do the cooking any more, it's why I live here to start. I wish I could.
I know; naming all addictions would take a few pages really. I addition to what I know from personal experience, I'm an old retired RN. Several of us are encouraging a fellow resident to quit smoking, and explained to her she HAS to thoroughly want to do so, for herself, or it won't work! She knows we've been there and done that, most of us decades ago.
This is a fine comment. You've covered it all and your words carry such truth because you speak from your experience of the time you've spent with addicts and what you've learned from them. Olenka Folda
Sounds like you believe in beatings, too. No one learns from harshness. I worked with drug addicts there in Dallas. A thankless job but I would never change the time I gave to that endeavor. They were young. Abused. Lost. And once hooked, next to impossible to rescue. None of the fool drugs we use to “help” them work. The ones who climb out are rare and give some hope.....maybe to others. Mostly it’s false hope. Once hooked, you will struggle for life to get unhooked and stay that way. We need to go back to better, more engaged parenting without abuse. We need to get the programming out of our schools that leave kids lost and vulnerable to the predators that suck them in. We need honest leaders at all levels of government as well as in the churches, media, schools and corporations. Those places where kids are getting programmed. It’s not a simplistic “it’s not cool to do this” sort of thing. It’s adults and programed youth by adults who know how to manipulate vulnerable young people. The drug lords and our sick, corrupted government - including the medical community - who deserve our contempt. Not the kids - including the rock stars who are also kids - who just don’t know who to believe in anymore. Go into downtown Dallas or south Dallas for a few nights and sit with those street kids. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Just be quiet and sit and listen and watch. You’ll need to carry for protection and don’t look too affluent and don’t sound like you “want to help” since that will make you a target and they can see through that last bit and know how to manipulate your emotions to get a few bucks off of you. But you need to know the people you are babbling about before deciding “what needs to be done.” You need to KNOW.
You nailed it!!! Hopefully God will speak to his heart and he'll listen. I'm not an a user and have been friends with some who're recovered 20+ years and married to a 17 yr survivor of drugs . It IS possible. Thank you and God bless you for the work you have done to help.
Bless you and your friends and spouse yes it can be done but it’s damned hard work and more lost than saved. My heart is still scarred from that time. ❤️
You know what sir, that's a fat load of bushwah! The problem is not that addictions are that hard to break, it's that they do NOT WANT to quit and get clean. When, if they choose to do so, because they truly want to quit, whether it's alcohol, drugs, tobacco/ nicotine, gambling, sex,or whatever the addiction is, they can and will do so. But folks like you and sou mentally deranged "leaders" coddle them, so the payoff to staying addicts is greater than that of getting sober! I know because I have quit addictions to (prescribed) narcotics and tobacco both, without drugs or any of the other "helps" you're providing. No patches or gum, etc. The really hard 1 is food, and I am working on that 1 too. It's the only 1 you can't reach a stop point. But it is still a free will choice to reduce intake and break its control.
Go carnivore and then regular keto and your food addiction will take care of itself.
You are correct, they must want to quit. But the only way to get them to want to quit is to offer the only kind of love they understand: uncompromising tough love. Every single recovering addict I interviewed in researching my books admitted--eventually, sometimes a year after I asked--they were inspired to "try sobriety" because of a credible or actual loss of something they truly cared about (family, children, job, freedom). And they stayed sober not just because they worked the program, but because others warned them that if they drank or used again the same fate would befall them.
You are partly correct in naming all the "addictions." Half of compulsive gambler, sexually compulsive, compulsive spenders are psychoactive drug addicts; most of the other half are children of addicts, coping in their own particular way. For the addicts, stop the active addiction and, while some flip over into the other compulsions, most after a period will stop the compulsions. For the non-addicts, they need to understand their parent(s) did what they did because of their addiction. Their emotional or intellectual abandonment was a result of the addiction, not the real parent, who almost assuredly would have loved their child if they did not have a greater love of the substance.
I can't do that; I live in a semi assisted living place where meals are provided, and there aren't real cooking facilities in our apartments. Even If I had the appliances I can't do the cooking any more, it's why I live here to start. I wish I could.
I know; naming all addictions would take a few pages really. I addition to what I know from personal experience, I'm an old retired RN. Several of us are encouraging a fellow resident to quit smoking, and explained to her she HAS to thoroughly want to do so, for herself, or it won't work! She knows we've been there and done that, most of us decades ago.
This is a fine comment. You've covered it all and your words carry such truth because you speak from your experience of the time you've spent with addicts and what you've learned from them. Olenka Folda
Each of them still live on in my heart. Thank you.