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Don’t be so sure.

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No reason to quibble over what constitutes murder at this point, madoff was a criminal but these people are monsters unlike the US has ever seen before - they are DIRECTLY killing people with this mRNA bullshit and all of it leads to plenty of misery and suicide. Fighting over words on this substack isn't productive, my daughters are too young to understand what leads to suicide, I need them to know this fake vax is leading directly to painful deaths and the CDC NIH et al know it. Even Madoff represented a different simpler time in the world, whereas this is an evil unlike anything that came before, the "useless eaters" are being killed off and the world is teetering on collapse. Something else is also in play: I have too many relatively smart friends who are still boosting and they'd welcome a Madoff discussion to distract them from the truth of this genocide underfoot. I need to know what is brainwashing them cuz they used to be cynical towards all governments, now they practically sleep with a Fauci teddy bear. It's not just the fearporn it's something way more sinister and Maui-esque.

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Where do I get a Fauci teddy bear????

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Haha, how great would it be if it was made from the real thing?

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"Maui-esque"

Best New Word of 2023 Award

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His actions may have led to suicide death, but not straight up murders, as is the case here.

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Death is death. Murder is murder. Doesn’t matter if direct or indirect. Many indirect scamdemic murders via stress induced alcoholism, drug abuse and suicide. Whether murder by injection or victimization it amounts to the same thing.

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GLK, if somebody robs a bank there might be suicide and despair left in the robbery's wake. This is formerly trusted organizations saying "Rob a bank and shoot the security guard on your way out, it's your civic duty!" Where I might lose everybody reading my comment is I don't think it's just a profit motive, something like nanoparticles or chemical brain control is controlling too many people, I have one heretofore healthy good friend who (not exaggerating) who had a heart attack after one of his 4 boosters and now has cancer who doesn't believe it's possible the mRNA (which was touted as 95% effective but then shortly after required boosters) is responsible, saying "heart problems and cancer runs in my family", but his parents and uncle lived into their 90's. My friend's eyes are vacant and his thoughts are always scrambled, I promise this story is true, and I have others too. Madoff was nothing compared to this craziness, and I need to know how so many people are brainwashed so I can throw myself in front of my 2 daughters and know what I'm fighting.

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I had a friend that died of bacterial pneumonia in March. Was a weight lifter. Picture of health. Like me and those in my circle he was unvaccinated. I believe the hospital killed him by mistreating his pneumonia with more lucrative covid protocols. He did not get the treatment he required. I also believe thousands more met the same fate. By your logic I should tell his widow that his death, while tragic, really doesn’t compare to those who died by directly via injection. You know, because some strangers on a message board said it’s not biblically legal and it’s akin to an indirect death from a bank robbery. You should’ve stopped at “no reason to quibble.”

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GLK, it's awful your friend died, but it would be your choice to console his wife however you want, with or without adding qualifiers about "what strangers on a message board said is not biblically legal" etc. (which might confuse her as much as it confused me). You told a few of us in this comment section that Madoff's crimes and their fallout should be ranked just as bad as the monsters who continue to push these death jabs on children, teens, adults, and the old and infirm and often alone using threats to their livelihoods for compliance, and I think you're very very wrong. But hey at least Madoff is done with his crimes, kinda like Bonnie and Clyde. But the monsters pushing these Covid jabs just keep rolling on and making billions. I'm surprised you don't see this. Oh well, now I AM done quibbling.

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Morally, yes; legally no. Even under Biblical law that would not pass the test for being a murder, which would require the testimony of 2 or more witnesses.

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