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sifubernie's avatar

The Venn diagram is WRONG. Genes and environment? After injecting babies with garbage????

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Holobiont's avatar

What is wrong is to see genes and environment as distinct. 99% of the genes which affect the health of the human ecosystem - the human holobiont - are not on the 'human' chromosomes but are those of our microbial symbionts - the microbiome. The composition and diversity of the microbiome are very much affected by injecting or ingesting garbage, and this is the reason that (in a paper I read about twenty years ago, and cannot find in a hurry) obesity (another epidemic of the present) can be shown to be predicted by gene markers - but bacterial ones, not human ones.

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sifubernie's avatar

what are you smoking?

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Holobiont's avatar

Your reply implies disagreement. I am always eager to learn, and would be grateful if you could give the reasons for your opinion on my comment.

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DaughteroftheKing's avatar

As a Mom that witnesses our Child SUFFER/STRUGGLE DAILY due to Autism/Asperger's/ADHD, I PRAISE and THANK ALMIGHTY GOD for RFK, Jr.!

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Tracy Kolenchuk's avatar

There are two fundamental types of causes of diseases: past causes and present causes. Past causes exist in chains that go back into the past, as in "for want of a nail."

Past causes are always hypothetical, sometimes statistical, but can never be proven. The farther back we go in the chain of causes for a specific case, the less confidence we have at each step.

Present causes are cure causes. The present cause of an illness or disease is the cause which, when addressed, results in a cure or a partial cure. If we address, for example, a digestive system problem and the disease (ASD) is cured or lessened - that was a present cause. When we are discussing causes of illness, we must always distinguish clearly between these two types of causes. However, CURED is not scientifically nor medically defined for ASD, and partially cure is also not medically defined, so at present, we simply ignore cured cases and partial cures - and focus our attention on "past causes." This blindness leads us down a path of confusion because we are only looking at half the problem and only trying to prevent, never trying to cure disease. Prevention is based on past causes which cannot be proven in any specific case because past causes are statistical and cannot be proven in any specific case.

Cured cases are specific cases, not "statistical" analyses. When we learn to understand ASD cures we will also gain a better understanding of past causes in specific cases.

to your health, tracy

Author: A New Theory of Cure

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Saying vaccines cause autism is INCORRECT. The definition of autism is one that is present from birth.

Vaccines do NOT cause autism.

Vaccines cause vaccine induced encephalopathy (VIE). VIE has symptoms like autism.

This is a crucial distinction because we have VIE cases being covered up as autism which clinically and legally has no ground: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/stop-calling-it-autism-start-calling

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Holobiont's avatar

I take your point that much, indeed most, or what is called "autism" today is not what was called autism in the 1940s. Does this matter? i think not. Whether or not it meets the 1943 definition, we are experiencing a catastrophic increase in prevalence of a disabling condition which has acquired the label "autism". The prevalence of this new, epidemic acquired autism so exceeds that of congenital autism that it is what the public at large understands by the term, and the cause of which needs to be honestly elucidated.

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Liberty's avatar

The 72+ Toxic Mercury/Aluminum/Formelahyde..... Laced Vaccines ChildhoodSchedule Doesnt Help.

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Holobiont's avatar

It may be useful to draw the parallels with another chronic disease scourge of our times, that of obesity/metabolic syndrome/type II diabetes. I recall papers read a couple of decades ago, one of which showed that the risk of obesity depended no on one’s genetic relationships, but on with whom one shared a household, Another paper showed a correlation with genetic markers, not those on human genes, but those on bacterial genes – those of the gut microbiome. Makes a lot of sense. Translate to autism. We know from mouse experiments that antibiotic induced perturbations of the microbiome can induce an autism-analogous condition in baby mice. We also know that the microbiome of humans has lost richness and diversity over recent times through eating of processed food; inadequate physical activity; loss of contact with Nature: the soil, animals, plants, our fellow humans; excessive cleanliness; excessive use of antimicrobials; disruption of the "immune" system (which is far more about tolerance than immunity) by too many vaccines, too early in life.

The dots are already there. We just need to join them!

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